Five thoughts following Sunday’s thrilling race at Chicagoland Speedway…
1. THIS is why we watch
Yes! Wow, that was so fun. I would have never imagined Chicagoland would put on such an entertaining and exciting race, but NASCAR sure needed a day like that. What we witnessed Sunday was the kind of race you’d show your non-NASCAR friends and say, “See? It’s worth watching!”
Those stand-up-and-scream-at-the-TV finishes have been all too rare lately, especially in this predictable and oft-dry season. But Chicago was a reminder of why so many of us invest our time watching NASCAR. The payoff for those who tuned in for the race was very high, and viewers got rewarded with one of the best finishes in a long time.
When you get a race with lead changes and passing and contact and drama on the final lap, that’s thrilling enough. But when it happens on a 1.5-mile track, it’s oddly even more of an adrenaline rush than on a short track — because you don’t really expect it.
Are we going to see this every week? No, of course not. That’s why a bunch of important people wanted the All-Star package to be used in Cup. So let’s just be appreciative and thankful for seeing a good intermediate track race — and getting the reminder they do exist and can put on an outstanding show under the right circumstances.
2. Totally fair
Kyle Busch’s aggressive bump of Kyle Larson was 100% fair game. Larson said as much in his classy interview after the race, but that won’t keep some people from loathing Busch even more now (I’ve already seen this in my Twitter mentions).
Had it been a driver other than Busch, fans would have been cheering like crazy during his postrace interview. Can you imagine if Tony Stewart had done that? People would have said it was one of the coolest things ever.
Instead, fans showered Busch with boos and jeers. But at least that made him turn to the camera and do the crying face acting, which was hilarious and instantly meme-worthy.
Seriously though, Larson hit Busch in a last-lap battle for the win. You don’t think it’s fair game for Busch to nail him back? C’mon. That’s just silly. That’s pure NASCAR right there, and it’s what distinguishes stock cars from the other forms of racing.
3. Larson’s stock rises
This has been the season of Busch, Kevin Harvick and Martin Truex Jr. — a whopping 13 wins in 17 races between them! INSANE! So the fact Larson has even been a factor in some of these races is super impressive. He arguably doesn’t have as good of a car as the Big Three and yet can battle with them anyway. Imagine if he was driving a Stewart-Haas Racing car!
Additionally, his racer mentality is a really cool part of his personality and story. Did you expect him to get out of the car and rip Busch for being dirty, or perhaps whine or make a sarcastic personal comment? He didn’t do any of that.
In fact, he did the opposite. He essentially let Busch off the hook and took the high road, then even went to victory lane to congratulate the winning driver! That certainly raised Larson’s respect level in a lot of fans’ eyes.
Look, it’s fun when drivers get angry and punch each other after the race. You can get good videos of that and post them to YouTube, and lots of people will watch.
But it’s also neat to see competitors go all-out during the race and then treat each other respectfully afterward. It’s not like Larson was OK with losing, but he knew what happened was just part of racing — so he didn’t pout about it.
4. Dale’s Debut
Apparently there was a new broadcaster in the NBCSN booth. I’m having trouble coming up with the name. Let me watch the replay of the finish real quick.
Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s debut for NBC was refreshing and interesting. He had some good lines (“It’s like driving off a set of stairs,” he said of the Chicago bumps) and shared solid insight (“It does feel good, but it’s early,” Earnhardt said of Aric Almirola, pumping the brakes early in Stage 2 when the rest of the booth was getting excited).
But the best part was Earnhardt’s genuine enthusiasm for what he was seeing. There was nothing forced or fake; he wasn’t trying to sell anything to the viewers or convince people it was a good race — he was simply passing along his passion (or hitting Steve Letarte in the shoulder). It felt more like you were watching the race with a buddy rather than being talked down to by a professional broadcaster.
That said, I’m worried people are setting Earnhardt up for failure. NBC promoted the crap out of his debut, and everything leading up to the race was all about the guy in the booth — not anything to do with the cars or current drivers. So the expectations for what Earnhardt can bring to the broadcasts is very, very high.
That’s unreasonable. No matter who the broadcaster is, people aren’t going to tune in on a large-scale basis just to hear someone talk. I mean, the ratings didn’t even go up for Earnhardt’s final race last season at Homestead (they actually went down 20% and had a decline of 1.4 million viewers over the previous year)! So how can Earnhardt be expected to stop NASCAR’s ratings slide just by his presence as a broadcaster?
Everyone should just let Dale be Dale. Appreciate his insight and voice in the booth, which will fit seamlessly into the NBC broadcasts. But don’t expect he’s going to save the sport at this point. No one individual can do that.
5. Points Picture
With nine weeks to go in the regular season, there are still a whopping 10 spots available to make the playoffs on points.
Brad Keselowski is the current leader among those who haven’t won yet, followed by Kurt Busch, Denny Hamlin, Kyle Larson and Ryan Blaney. Aric Almirola is also comfortably inside the playoffs at this time.
The cutoff right now is Alex Bowman. Those above him in points are Jimmie Johnson (+52), Chase Elliott (+45) and Erik Jones (+18).
Those on the outside are Ricky Stenhouse Jr. (-23) and Paul Menard (-28). Daniel Suarez is the next-closest, but he’s pretty far out of it (-74 points).
Next week is Daytona, which represents an opportunity for someone like a Jamie McMurray or Bubba Wallace to steal an unexpected playoff spot.
This week on the post-race podcast, I’m joined by two people who have made names for themselves in their respective industries — and happen to be NASCAR fans who live in Oregon. Kate Ertmann, who is now a management consultant for small businesses, and Brian David Johnson, a futurist and bestselling author, help me break down the exciting Chicago race.
Last year, I started a daily racing newsletter with the intention of making it a long-term project.
But keeping up with it proved to be too much for one person, so I put the newsletter on hiatus last July. However, I still kept paying MailChimp a monthly fee and retained the email list for sometime down the road.
That time is now — or at least this month. Together with up-and-coming racing journalist Aaron Bearden, we’re going to attempt to do a newsletter for every day in July as an experiment.
Aaron already does something similar on his Facebook page and calls it the Morning Warmup, so we’re going to use that name. It’s going to be the same newsletter as before — quick-hit racing news you might have missed, links and a look ahead to the day’s activity — just now managed by two people instead of one.
My personal goal with re-launching the newsletter is to attract some advertising revenue that will provide a source of income for Aaron. I think he’s really talented and deserves the opportunity to make a living in racing. Since he’s already doing something similar to this on his own, it seemed like a natural fit to combine our efforts.
Anyway, let us know what you think of it. The newsletter should hit your inbox each morning if you already signed up, and here’s the link to do so if you haven’t yet.
Sonoma Raceway president/general manager Steve Page at an event with Jeff Gordon in 2015. (Photo by Kelley L Cox/NASCAR via Getty Images)
Each week, I ask a member of the racing community to explain their career path and how they reached their current position. Up this week: Steve Page, president and general manager of Sonoma Raceway. This interview was recorded as a podcast, but is also transcribed for those who prefer to read.
Did you grow up around here? Did you grow up interested in racing or anything like that?
I did not. I grew up in Monterey, which is about 150 miles south of here. My father was an attorney on the Monterey Peninsula. And the only experience I had with motor racing before the day I interviewed for this job was I had been to Laguna Seca when I was very young to see a race. It was the Can-Am Series with Jim Hall and Mark Donohue. I didn’t know what I was seeing.
Then in high school, they used to hire high school kids to park cars there. That was my entire motorsports universe. I’d never been to a NASCAR race until I came here. I didn’t follow the sport, didn’t really know anything about it.
When you were growing up, what did you have aspirations of doing?
I bounced all over the place. My first real sporting event was when I was about seven years old. My dad took me to a Giants game at Candlestick Park, and Willie McCovey hit a three-run home run with two outs in the bottom of the ninth to beat the Pirates, and it pretty much set the hook on me. I grew up as a diehard Giants fan, and it became quickly evident when I played my one year of Little League that I was probably a better candidate for the front office. The only sport I actually played competitively was tennis; I was on the tennis team in high school.
But I’m not sure I had a specific career aspiration. I always had a certain attraction to events. There was a lot of rock music that happened on the Monterey Peninsula — the Monterey Pop Festival, I saw Bob Dylan for the first time when I was about 10 years old and used to get jobs ushering and working rock concerts at the fairgrounds. I think there was always a certain attraction to event activities, the event business.
But my career has just been a whole succession of happy accidents. If someone had told me I would be running a motor racing facility back when I was in high school or even in college, I would have told you they were nuts.
I graduated high school, I started off in college down in Santa Barbara — and had a great time. Got a letter from my dad at the end of my sophomore year that said, “If this is your idea of going to college, then you’re more than welcome to keep doing it, but you’re gonna pay for it yourself from now on.”
So you were having too good of a time.
I was having a wonderful time. But I was not on a good trajectory academically. So I used that as an excuse to drop out of school for almost two years.
Did a lot of traveling, eliminated a lot of potential career choices. I spent six months selling women’s shoes, I sold Buicks, I worked as a gardener. I traveled across the country with a friend in a van. We spent about three months getting across the country through the Southwest and the South and up the East Coast. He was one of my college buddies, and then he went back to go to school. I wasn’t ready to give up the road, so I hitchhiked up to Maine because I was running out of money and it was the potato harvest in northern Maine. I worked the potato harvest, and then hitchhiked back to California.
An ID photo from Steve Page’s younger days. (Courtesy Steve Page)
Wow! Hitchhiked all the way?
Maine to California. And the last guy that picked me up — it was right around Halloween — was driving a truck full of Christmas trees and hired me to drive Christmas trees back and forth from Oregon back to San Francisco, and I lived in a trailer on a Christmas tree lot and sold Christmas trees.
And at that point I had actually somehow managed — I don’t know how with the grades I had — to get accepted to (Cal) Berkeley and transferred there. So I spent a couple quarters at Berkeley, then went and spent the summer traveling in Europe. I went back (to the U.S.) in the fall of ’76.
My family had always been involved in politics, Democratic politics, and a local attorney and someone who was very well known, Leon Panetta, was running for Congress for his first time. I did some work on his campaign. He got elected and took office in January. So I was a couple quarters from graduating, but went to do a three-month internship with Leon’s office right as he was taking office.
As the internship was winding up, the guy who was our press secretary got accepted to go get his Master’s at Columbia Journalism School, so the job opened up and I was like, “What the heck?” I had taken one journalism class in college; I was just phenomenally unqualified for the job. Somehow being in the right place in the right time, I ended up in that job and spent three years on Capitol Hill as Leon’s press secretary.
So what was being a press secretary on Capitol Hill like? I can’t even imagine the demands you had to deal with.
It was a very stimulating environment. It was a much better, more collegial environment in D.C. — this was in the late 70s — than it is now.
People would actually work together?
Yeah, and Leon was a guy everybody loved. We were Democrats, and when you’re on the staff, you’re all in. But Leon had some of his best friends and would go out with dinner and play basketball with right-wing Republicans. At the staff level, you’re like, “How could you hang out with those guys?” But Leon was just one of these guys who crossed party lines. Everybody loved him. Bright, funny, articulate, swears like a sailor — he still does — and just had this warm personality people gravitated to. So he was a freshman and I was there in his second term, but just one of the really highly respected people in that world and continued to be through his career.
I was in my early 20s; I think I was 22 when I got the job. It was a super stimulating environment. D.C., Capitol Hill, you work late nights, work long hours — but at the point in my life, you could do that. You went out and partied hard at night and you rolled back in the next day and you did it again.
So I did that for three years and finally realized I was two quarters away from a college degree, and really ought to go and finish it up. And at that point, after three years on Capitol Hill, I realized that was not the world I wanted to spend my career in. So I moved back to California, finished up my last couple quarters at Cal. I wasn’t sure what I wanted to do but I had a friend in the real estate business, so I got my license and kind of worked with him for six months at a time when the real estate interest rates were about 22 percent. So there was not a lot of real estate changing hands. I realized that just in order to feed myself I had to get a night job as a bartender. So I could see real estate was also not going to be my future.
So you’re just crossing things off the list, going through and eliminating careers.
That was a long list, including everything I did in high school in restaurants and washing dishes. I sold Fuller brushes door to door in high school. If I actually filled out a full resume, it would take a pretty big piece of paper.
You did even bartending, you said?
I bartended in college and supplemented the money I wasn’t making in real estate. I worked in a bar in San Francisco.
In October, right at the end of baseball season, Charlie Finley sold the A’s to the Haas family, the family that owns Levi Strauss. And over the years, I had sent letters, resumes to the Giants. At a certain point, my dream job was to work for the San Francisco Giants. I don’t know if I kept all the rejection notices, but they were not interested.
But the Haas family bought the A’s. Finley had run the organization into the ground. I think their attendance in 1980 was 350,000 for the season. Team was horrible. But they had this young rookie, Rickey Henderson, and they had a lot of good pitchers and Billy Martin was the manager.
So I went and showed up with my resume at the Oakland A’s offices, it happened to be there the day their new VP of the business side of the operations, Andy Dolich, was waking in the door with his briefcase and his suitcase, having moved there from the East Coast to take over the job. So I found out he was the guy and bugged him. I drove him crazy.
In person?
In person, on the phone, any way I could. And they finally hired me to sell season tickets door to door. At the time there was all this excitement about the team. They had a total of 75 season ticket accounts. You could actually sell someone a season ticket in the first row over the dugout.
So a bunch of us went out and did that and a few of us got hired full time. I ended up spending 11 absolutely wonderful years in that organization, moving up (the ladder). I started off running the season and group ticket sales operation, moved into special events, ran the All Star game in ’87 — I just did a lot of community-oriented stuff in Oakland and worked for probably the most amazing owners you could ever hope to have in the sports franchise. They were totally committed to the community, saw themselves as the stewards of the community asset; they made their fortune selling Levi Strauss blue jeans, and this was something that they did.
And they ultimately sold it for more than they bought it for, but their first focus was, “How can we use this as a resource to elevate the community?” It was just such an inspirational group of people to work for. Walter Haas is just probably one of the finest human beings I’ve ever met. And so I was there for 11 years, 11 great years.
Well there’s a picture on the wall we can talk about. Although there’s an interesting story behind that. Since this is not a visual medium, that is a six-foot long picture of the Oakland A’s and the San Francisco Giants lined up on the baselines for the player introductions for Game 3 of the World Series. A friend of mine had that and I got it replicated and put up on the wall.
And everyone that comes in looks at the pictures, say, “OK, I was right there when the earthquake hit” or “I was over here.” And about six years ago, (former A’s manager) Tony La Russa was our grand marshal, and I had him in here on Sunday morning before we went down for the pre-race ceremony. I said, “Tony, look at that picture, that’s from the earthquake game.” And he says, “No it’s not.” I said, “What are you talking about? Look, Game 3, World Series.” He said, “We never made it out for player introductions before the earthquake — that’s 10 days later when we played Game 3.” I said, “Tony, you just screwed up a story I’ve been telling for 10 years.”
Anyway, I was there for all three World Series — ’88, ’89, ’90. Those teams were amazing. We were the center of the universe. It was such an incredible experience to go through.
Yeah, I remember those teams well. Those were my teams growing up. I was 8, 9, 10 years old at that time. I remember I cried when the Dodgers, I think it was in ’88, when Kirk Gibson hit that home run.
I was sitting right there over the right field bullpen watching Jose Canseco not even move his feet, just craning his neck to watch it go over. It was very mixed emotions because it was heartbreaking because we had that game in the bag. I mean, Canseco hit that grand slam in the first inning, we were up 4-0, Stew (Dave Stewart) was pitching a beautiful game.
I sat there saying, “We’re losing this game, but I’m now seeing what will be one of the great moments in the history of sports.” And unfortunately I have to watch it over and over again, because I don’t know how many times a year it shows up back on TV. Gibson pumping his arm as he goes around. The little fat guy (Tommy Lasorda) running out of the dugout with his arms in the air. I still have nightmares about that.
So how in the world do you go from part of the whole Bash Brothers Era to getting involved in racing?
Well, another right place, right time situation. I was with the A’s for 11 years. I had sort of reached a point where there wasn’t a next move for me in the organization. I had a family at that point, needed to figure out where to advance my career and it wasn’t going to be there.
I was recruited, interviewing, spent the better part of two years at different places around the country looking at different jobs. I actually interviewed with George Bush when he was the owner of the Texas Rangers. They didn’t hire me, so I didn’t vote for him.
But Cleveland, Long Island — a long list of different organizations. But I always figured team sports was what I knew, sso I figured that’s where I would stay.
One day Andy Dolich, who was my boss, said, “I just got a call from this guy who owns a racetrack up in Sonoma — Sears Point Raceway — and they’re looking for a president.” And my first reaction was, “I don’t know anything about car racing.” And my second reaction was, “Wow, Sonoma.”
We actually had friends in Sonoma and spent a lot of time up here. And I always thought, “Well, this is some place that would be great to live when when I retire. But there’s clearly not a job in professional sports that would allow us to live here.” And so I said, “Maybe I need to listen to this bell that’s going off in my head.”
I came up and saw this place in the state that it was in at the time — which was very, very rough. It was a really run-down facility. Readers cannot see that picture (on the wall showing how Sonoma used to look), but I keep that there to remind myself of what this place looked like when I came to work here — no infrastructure, run-down, a few metal buildings. It was just a really terrific strip of asphalt that was fun to drive on and nothing else.
And so the owner at the time assured me he had plans to invest a lot of money and turn it into something. I thought, “I don’t know if I’ll like the job, but living in Sonoma, raising my family there, it’s worth a shot.” So I signed on, I came here in the fall of 1991.
1991! You’ve been here that long? Wow.
Yes. But as it turned out, I didn’t have a good relationship with the owner at the time. He did not have the money to invest in the facilities, so it just became a real dead end. We weren’t making improvements, it was just not turning into what it was described to me to be. And I was starting to look around at other opportunities when all of a sudden, Mr. Bruton Smith steps in, buys the track and one of the best of the days of my life is when Speedway Motorsports bought this facility. It was at a time when there was a big wave of consolidation in the industry, and Bruton was someone who believed in building the premier facilities in the sport.
So I was given the immediate mission to turn this place into something special. Of course, this being Northern California, we had to spend four years in the environmental process to get the permission to remodel an existing racetrack. But once we got those entitlements in the year 2000, we went out and we spent over $100 million of Bruton’s money to turn this into what you see out the window now. And it’s probably one of the most gratifying things I’ve ever been involved in.
Steve Page (third from left) poses with Bruton Smith and other Speedway Motorsports track executives in 2009. (Photo by Jason Smith/Getty Images for NASCAR)
Wow. No wonder you like to sit in here and look out at it.
We have a lot of people on the staff who have been here through for nearly two decades and went through that process. It is something that, when you consider that little farmhouse down by the entrance, which is where we used to work, that and a couple of double-wide trailers where the PR and the marketing department worked, it has been a pretty dramatic change. It’s something we all take a great deal of pride in.
I always ask people about career path for others who would like to follow. It sounds like your career path would be quite difficult to replicate. But I’m sure you do get people all the time who do ask you, “Hey, I’d love to get involved in racing on the track side of things.” If somebody’s reading this, how would you recommend they go about getting a start these days?
You’ve got to be persistent. Probably the most important thing is to be open to opportunities that don’t look like exactly what you were looking for, because that’s kind of where I’ve ended up along the way. You’re not going to find your dream job the first job you walk into.
Talk to lots of people, and everybody you talk to, ask them to give you three names of other people you can talk to. Build a range of contacts of people in the industry.
And don’t go to people asking for a job, go to people and ask them how they got in their job. Develop relationships. You never know who you’re going to hit it off with, who you’re going to impress. And you might click with someone who doesn’t have something available today, but three months from now they might, or they might have a friend who does.
Build a network, so that when that oddball opportunity pops out of nowhere, you are exposed to it. And be flexible. Like I said, I’d never been to a NASCAR race when this job came up and I said, “Well, maybe I can figure it out.” So I did.
That’s fantastic advice, actually. Thanks for sharing that.
You just have to expand your vision as to what an opportunity can turn into, because frequently what it is when you get there may not be what it can become, or it may open other doors along the way.
The series of 12 Questions interviews continues this week with Chase Elliott of Hendrick Motorsports. These interviews are recorded as a podcast but also transcribed for those who prefer to read.
1. How often do you have dreams about racing?
Racing’s weird. A lot of times I lay in bed at night — I don’t go to sleep very quickly — and I’ll think about it a little bit before going to bed. Especially if it’s race weekend or something like coming (to Sonoma), kind of running laps around the road course in your head. And when I do that, I never fall asleep, so it kind of keeps me up. So my mind wanders elsewhere.
The last dream I had about racing was, somehow or another I was running the Indy race somewhere. Actually it was an F1 race. Weirdest thing ever. And I get in the race, qualified like third or fourth, and we’re going out to the grid. We’re about to get into the cars and I realize I didn’t have my suit on. I was in my street clothes, and I had to go run and change really fast and I missed the start of the race. Nightmare, basically.
Lewis Hamilton’s not going to let you win when that happens.
No, definitely not.
2. If you get into someone during a race — intentional or not — does it matter if you apologize?
I think it kind of depends on the circumstance and whether or not the other person knows whatever drove to that contact in that situation. Sure, if I get into somebody — whether it’s on accident, on purpose, whatever — I do think if an explanation is needed, it’s probably in your best interest to at least say something. You race around the same people every week, so you’re gonna be around that person again and they can make your life easier or harder.
3. What is the biggest compliment someone could give you?
Within racing, I just think the kind of competitor you are. If somebody’s bragging on the type of competitor you are and how you conduct yourself, I think that’s a pretty big compliment regardless of performance. I just think if you’re appreciated and respected from your peers, I think you’re doing something right. It’s not necessarily a compliment, but if respect is there, I think that’s a pretty big one in itself and you can typically tell whether someone respects you or not. I think that goes a long way.
4. NASCAR comes to you and says they’re bringing a celebrity to the track and they want you to host them. Who is a celebrity you’d be excited to host?
I had a chance to hang out with Daniel Ricciardo from the F1 side (at Texas last fall). He’s not a celebrity — a California celebrity — but obviously a very well-known racer. Had a lot of fun with that.
I think kind of keeping it in the racing community, hanging out with people that understand what you have going on is a lot more fun than hosting somebody that has no clue. I’m a fan of different things. But hosting other people within a type of racing, I think is very cool because they know a lot about racing,
Obviously if they’re invited here, they are well-known in whatever area they race in. And they know a lot about it, they just don’t know a lot about this kind of racing, and I don’t know a lot about their kind of racing. So it’s an easy cross and an easy thing to talk about the differences and similarities as well.
5. In an effort to show this is a health conscious sport, NASCAR decides to offer the No. 1 pit stall for an upcoming race to the first driver willing to go vegan for one month. Would you do it?
No, absolutely not. No. I’ll take my chances.
6. It’s time for the Random Race Challenge. I’ve picked a random race from your career and you have to tell me where you finished. This is the 2015 Kentucky Fall race for Xfinity. It wasn’t really the fall, but second Kentucky race.
Second Kentucky race 2015 — was it repaved yet? No, it was not repaved in 2015. I wanna say we finished either second or third to Brendan Gaughan?
Nope, this was P4.
P4, I was close.
Blaney won this race.
That’s right.
You remember this?
I remember that now. There was another one, we had a real huge race with Brendan Gaughan and I think Ty Dillon, us three raced really hard there at the end for a race. That might have been the first Kentucky that year, maybe it was in ’14. But I remember that one too.
How good are you at remembering races in general?
Depends on the race. If something memorable happens or you’re up towards the front and you’re contending — I feel like I remember a lot more from when I’m contending or am relevant in a race. When you’re back there rooting and gouging for 15th, 12th or worse, I try to forget those really fast.
7. Who is the best rapper alive?
I’m a J. Cole fan, so I think he’s pretty good for a rapper. I don’t know a lot about the rapping world, but always kind of liked his music.
8. Who has the most punchable face in NASCAR?
I think it depends on the week. To be honest with you, I feel like that probably changes often. I had a favorite there last fall. You all can figure that one out.
9. NASCAR enlists three famous Americans to be involved with your team for one race as part of a publicity push: Taylor Swift, LeBron James and Tom Hanks. Choose one to be your crew chief, one to be your spotter and one to be your motorhome driver.
That’s pretty funny. I’m going to say LeBron on the crew chief side because his ability to remember plays in a game is very impressive to me. I’m going to say Tom Hanks spotting because I think he’ll keep his mouth shut. And Taylor Swift can drive the motorhome just because I would get to hang out with her more in that sense, so that would be a good option for her.
10. What is the key to finding the best pre-race bathroom?
Finding one that nobody else is going to. That’s the key, going off the beaten path. When Dale Jr. was here, there was one in his hauler, so I went there every Sunday before the race. And then this year, for some reason — there’s a lot of people not happy about this, me being one of them — it’s no longer there. They turned it into an IT room to house a bunch of the electronics and whatnot. I always went there. So this year has been tough. That’s an important part of your Sunday is getting that done at the right time.
11. NASCAR misses the highlight reel value brought by Carl Edwards’ backflips and decides a replacement is needed. How much money would they have to pay you to backflip off your car after your next win?
I couldn’t. I cannot backflip off the side of a car, so the price would be high. Real high.
12. Each week, I ask a driver to give me a question for the next interview. Last week was Ricky Stenhouse Jr. He wants NASCAR to race at Bristol on Wednesday nights once a month as points races. Would you be up for that?
I would entertain that idea. Bristol’s pretty close to me and that’s a fun place, so why not?
The next interview is going to be with Aric Almirola. Do you have a question I can ask him?
To be honest with you, I don’t really know Aric that well.
That’s so interesting to me when drivers say that. I think it was Noah Gragson who tweeted you this week and he’s like, “Chase Elliott knew who I was!” I was like, “Why would Chase Elliott not know Noah Gragson? Of course he knows that.”
Well, I think he was being a little sarcastic. Maybe he wasn’t, but I’m pretty certain he was. But yeah, I thought he did a good job there at Iowa, put on a show. So that was fun to watch for me.
But as far as for Aric, I don’t know. Really the most I’ve learned about him in recent times was his show he did, I guess, he went to Cuba, right?
Yeah, FS1 did a feature on that.
But I think kind of keep it more on a racing side. … Obviously his switch, he has an opportunity to drive some really good cars this year. What does he feel like SHR does as a whole is better or what his favorite part about being there now is? What is the best thing that’s helped him from where he’s been in years past? I think that will be interesting to know.
Previous 12 Questions interviews with Chase Elliott:
Five thoughts after Sunday’s race at Sonoma Raceway…
1. Trick Play
Rodney Childers climbed down from the pit box with his headset still on, bent down to tie his shoes and tapped the button on his radio.
“I kind of let everybody down,” he told driver Kevin Harvick and the No. 4 team.
“All good,” Harvick replied. “Always want to win, but that stuff happens.”
“That stuff” was getting duped by an unusual case of trickery that likely cost Harvick the race on Sunday.
Here’s how it went down.
The No. 4 was the fastest car — as has been the case so often this season — with Martin Truex Jr. as the second best.
With that in mind, Truex crew chief Cole Pearn pulled off an Oscar-worthy performance to try and lure Harvick into the pits. He told Truex to pit and had the crew jump on the wall like a pit stop was about to happen, then called Truex off.
It didn’t work the first time. So then Pearn tried it again — he told Truex to pit, then reversed the call before Truex came down pit road. Truex had no idea what was going on (there was no code language or anything), but just knew to trust his crew chief.
This time, Pearn’s ploy worked. Childers — who was scanning the No. 78 team’s radio — took the bait and called Harvick to the pits earlier than originally planned, which opened the door for Truex to then stay out longer.
In turn, that gave Truex an advantage late in the race with fresher tires, which he used to easily pass Harvick.
“We’re in California — they went to acting school this week,” Truex said with a grin. “They were in L.A. for a couple days on the off weekend learning how to do screenplays and such.”
Furniture Row Racing president Joe Garone said he was aware of what Pearn was trying to do and termed it as a “flying-by-the-seat-of-your-pants” call when it appeared the No. 4 car was going to win out if the race went green.
“Obviously the first time we called it, it didn’t work,” Garone said. “So it was really cool that we were able to call it the second time. What a great move by Cole.”
Pearn downplayed the move and said it was just a product of road-course racing. where a fake-out has a longer window of opportunity to work. Childers echoed that sentiment, saying road courses are the best place to try a move because “you’ve got time to react.”
Unfortunately for Childers, he did react — even though he had been determined not to let another team influence his strategy.
“I’ve been preaching for two days to not worry about what everybody else was doing,” he said. “… We could have just turned the scanners off altogether and just ran our race. Probably would have been better off.”
Harvick, though, gave Childers his full support. He walked over to the crew chief and patted him on the back afterward, and the two spent several minutes speaking to one another.
“He shouldn’t beat himself up over a pit call,” Harvick said.
2. Fair game?
Was Pearn’s fake-out a cheap move? Childers didn’t think so at all and instead tipped his hat to the No. 78 team, even going to victory lane to offer his congratulations. As we’ve seen several times this season, the No. 4 team shares a mutual respect with both the Nos. 18 and 78 teams, which make up the big three contenders of the season (they’ve won 12 of the 16 races so far).
“That’s really why I like racing those guys the most — the 18 and the 78,” Childers said. “Those guys are really good at what they do. They make all of us better. And we make them better every week. It’s awesome what they did and I have to congratulate them for that.”
It’s refreshing that although the top three teams keep running up front together each week, there’s no bad blood between them. Sure, a bitter rivalry would be fun — very fun, actually. But it’s also cool to see the mutual respect and sportsmanship that exists.
After all, Pearn noted, they’re just playing a game.
“We have a great relationship,” Pearn said of Childers. “I respect him a lot, and I feel like he does the same. Him and Martin worked together back at MWR, so they’re good friends. I always try and congratulate them when they win, and he always does it when we win.
“There’s plenty of days where they’re going to be up. Kevin Harvick is an awesome race car driver, and I’ve got a lot of respect for him. I think it’s pretty cool to be able to race them like we do.”
3. Unusually calm
There were the fewest “natural” cautions (yellow flags other than stage breaks or competition cautions) in track history on Sunday. The only yellow flag other than the end of Stages 1 and 2 was for AJ Allmendinger’s car on the track after he blew an engine.
So what’s up with that?
For one thing, drivers say the field has gotten more skilled at road racing. Truex pointed to the Xfinity and Truck Series running more road courses, which means the younger drivers have a chance to get used to that type of racing by the time they reach Cup. Meanwhile, the Cup guys have raised their game as well.
But another reason is stage racing. It’s had a profound impact on road courses because the races turn into more of a strategy play than a straight-up, head-to-head battle. When the field gets spread out while using various strategies, there’s less chance for a wreck and no one is pushing the issue.
Still, that doesn’t mean NASCAR needs to change anything or suddenly get rid of stages at road courses. It’s much better to have a consistent race format for each week of the season than get into the business of tweaking it at certain venues in the name of entertainment.
That might produce some Formula One-type races at times —where strategy seems to prevail over all else — but it’s not like it happens every week.
4. ‘Dinger’s Despair
We all know there are pretty much two shots for Allmendinger to make the playoffs each season: Sonoma and Watkins Glen. And while Allmendinger has a decent track record at the Glen, Sonoma has been a nightmare.
Something always seems to either break on the car or Allmendinger loses his cool when faced with mid-race adversity. That’s why the talented road racer has more career finishes of 35th or worse at Sonoma (five) than top-10 finishes (two).
In that sense, his team’s strategy Sunday was puzzling. With Allmendinger in agreement, the 47 team had its driver stay on track for stage points while the other leaders pitted late in Stage 1. Allmendinger ended up winning the stage and got 10 stage points — but for what?
The driver entered the race 23rd in points. He’s not racing for points; he’s racing for wins.
After that decision — with all his track position lost and now tasked with trying to come through the field — Allmendinger made a mistake, missed a shift and blew his engine.
Race over.
The whole sequence just didn’t make sense, and it turned into another deeply disappointing day for the ‘Dinger.
After all, this playoff field is shaping up to have the most drivers getting their playoff spots on points since the start of the Win-And-In Era.
With Daytona 500 winner Austin Dillon outside the top 16 in the standings, that moves the cutoff position to 15th in points — which is currently Alex Bowman. He’s safe by 17 points over Ricky Stenhouse Jr. and by 25 points over Paul Menard.
Erik Jones has a 13-point lead over Bowman (and thus a 30-point cushion to Stenhouse). After that, the cutoff isn’t really close because Chase Elliott is another 35 points ahead of Jones and therefore 65 points inside the cutoff.
The winless drivers who would make the playoffs right now are Brad Keselowski, Kurt Busch, Denny Hamlin, Kyle Larson, Aric Almirola, Ryan Blaney, Jimmie Johnson, Elliott, Jones and Bowman.
NASCAR Next driver Will Rodgers, who won Saturday’s K&N West race at Sonoma Raceway, joins me to help analyze everything that happened in Sunday’s Cup Series race.